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	<description>Member of Staffordshire County Council representing Lichfield Rural East - Cabinet Member for Adults and Wellbeing</description>
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		<title>By: Alex Holodnyj</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-15504</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Holodnyj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments of Mr. Ellis and Ms Melanie regarding Banja Luka are indeed most welcome.Whilst originating from a Russian/Ukrainian family I lived most of my life in England. My life plan had been for a number of years to retire early and live in Spain or Portugal. However as fate had it I worked for a year in Banja Luka during 2000 and 2001 during which time I met a local girl and we married in the UK in 2002. In 2007 I retired and now live most of the time in Banja Luka and keep an apartment on the coast in Montenegro.

Banja Luka is not perfect, nowhere is in my experience. However in general terms the streets are much safer than for example than where I used to live in the UK, the vast majority of people are also far more polite and well mannered and here my neighbours actually talk to me on a daily basis and we all watch out for each other. Banja Luka has its fair share of economic problems and low wages but I sincerely hope that the day is not far away when a generation of people will come to the fore who are prepared to fully engage with the outside world and stimulate opportunities for the local population.
Recent events such as the &#039;Demofest&#039; are fantastic adverts for Banja Luka and I know for sure, having spoken to members of British bands who played the &#039;Fest&#039; that they will be speaking very positively about their experiences here. To those morons who were critical of the &#039;Fest&#039; because bands from Croatia were voted first and second place by the panel of judges I can say only this: Get a life. These were young people who came here in peace to play their music and have a good time, the &#039;Fest&quot; was about music and music alone and certainly to me and many of my local friends any participating bands origins were totally irrelevant.

The legacy of the civil wars in former Yugoslavia will last many years and will probably be impossible to permanently eradicate, however that should not be allowed to obstruct the road to future peace and prosperity. To those who have mocked my sentiments in the past I say only this: What kind of society would you like your grandchildren to live in? I know what sort I wish for mine. I wish only good for Banja Luka and its citizenry, its a great place!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments of Mr. Ellis and Ms Melanie regarding Banja Luka are indeed most welcome.Whilst originating from a Russian/Ukrainian family I lived most of my life in England. My life plan had been for a number of years to retire early and live in Spain or Portugal. However as fate had it I worked for a year in Banja Luka during 2000 and 2001 during which time I met a local girl and we married in the UK in 2002. In 2007 I retired and now live most of the time in Banja Luka and keep an apartment on the coast in Montenegro.</p>
<p>Banja Luka is not perfect, nowhere is in my experience. However in general terms the streets are much safer than for example than where I used to live in the UK, the vast majority of people are also far more polite and well mannered and here my neighbours actually talk to me on a daily basis and we all watch out for each other. Banja Luka has its fair share of economic problems and low wages but I sincerely hope that the day is not far away when a generation of people will come to the fore who are prepared to fully engage with the outside world and stimulate opportunities for the local population.<br />
Recent events such as the &#8216;Demofest&#8217; are fantastic adverts for Banja Luka and I know for sure, having spoken to members of British bands who played the &#8216;Fest&#8217; that they will be speaking very positively about their experiences here. To those morons who were critical of the &#8216;Fest&#8217; because bands from Croatia were voted first and second place by the panel of judges I can say only this: Get a life. These were young people who came here in peace to play their music and have a good time, the &#8216;Fest&#8221; was about music and music alone and certainly to me and many of my local friends any participating bands origins were totally irrelevant.</p>
<p>The legacy of the civil wars in former Yugoslavia will last many years and will probably be impossible to permanently eradicate, however that should not be allowed to obstruct the road to future peace and prosperity. To those who have mocked my sentiments in the past I say only this: What kind of society would you like your grandchildren to live in? I know what sort I wish for mine. I wish only good for Banja Luka and its citizenry, its a great place!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Slavko</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-14945</link>
		<dc:creator>Slavko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banja Luka was involved in the war  as was &quot;most of the country&quot;. Desides ethnic cleansing there was cultroside by Serb forces. In Banja Luka there used to be 15 Mosques in Banja Luka including the Ferhadija mosque built in 1579. All of the 15 mosques were completely destroyed. Similarly in the Banja Luka district there were 90 mosques which were all destroyed. By any stretch of the imagination this is organised destruction of muslim places of worship by Serb forces. 

Please compare this to Sarajevo. There 10,000 people were killed in a 4-year by indiscriminate firing and shelling siege by Serb forces from the hills surrounding the city. Despite that the (Serbian) Orthodox cathedral (built 1868) still stands intact as does the Catholic cathedral (1889) and the synagogue (1902). Mathew (and all) I invite you to visit Sarajevo to see for yourselves.

Banja Luka is the political capital set up by those politicians who sought to live apart. Sarajevo is the capital of those who attempted to live together. I hope that the wonderful country of Bosnia and Hercegovina will unite around those who, after all the division and killing, have the strength and vision to bring all people together as respected citizens who may be different and move the country forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banja Luka was involved in the war  as was &#8220;most of the country&#8221;. Desides ethnic cleansing there was cultroside by Serb forces. In Banja Luka there used to be 15 Mosques in Banja Luka including the Ferhadija mosque built in 1579. All of the 15 mosques were completely destroyed. Similarly in the Banja Luka district there were 90 mosques which were all destroyed. By any stretch of the imagination this is organised destruction of muslim places of worship by Serb forces. </p>
<p>Please compare this to Sarajevo. There 10,000 people were killed in a 4-year by indiscriminate firing and shelling siege by Serb forces from the hills surrounding the city. Despite that the (Serbian) Orthodox cathedral (built 1868) still stands intact as does the Catholic cathedral (1889) and the synagogue (1902). Mathew (and all) I invite you to visit Sarajevo to see for yourselves.</p>
<p>Banja Luka is the political capital set up by those politicians who sought to live apart. Sarajevo is the capital of those who attempted to live together. I hope that the wonderful country of Bosnia and Hercegovina will unite around those who, after all the division and killing, have the strength and vision to bring all people together as respected citizens who may be different and move the country forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Danijel</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-14476</link>
		<dc:creator>Danijel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Matthew,

I just want to say a big thank you for posting this beautiful story which is a real picture of Banjaluka.
I&#039;m from Banjaluka but now live in the UK and this is the first time that I see something true and nice written about my home town/country. I&#039;m also very surprised by how many important details you have noticed regarding the life stile in Bosnia... Hope you&#039;ll soon go back to Bosnia and have an even better time!

Regards,
Danijel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Matthew,</p>
<p>I just want to say a big thank you for posting this beautiful story which is a real picture of Banjaluka.<br />
I&#8217;m from Banjaluka but now live in the UK and this is the first time that I see something true and nice written about my home town/country. I&#8217;m also very surprised by how many important details you have noticed regarding the life stile in Bosnia&#8230; Hope you&#8217;ll soon go back to Bosnia and have an even better time!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Danijel</p>
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		<title>By: Mitar</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-4057</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Melanie,
thank you for your very nice comment. I wish you to have a pleasent stay in Banja Luka next time you visit us. For you and all other people interested for visiting Banja Luka I recommend to see some nice videos on the youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgk1-3i8BAM
I hope see you soon in our beautifull city!
All the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Melanie,<br />
thank you for your very nice comment. I wish you to have a pleasent stay in Banja Luka next time you visit us. For you and all other people interested for visiting Banja Luka I recommend to see some nice videos on the youtube:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgk1-3i8BAM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgk1-3i8BAM</a><br />
I hope see you soon in our beautifull city!<br />
All the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Emmerson</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-3833</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie Emmerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mitar.
 
Sorry for delay in response.
The point I was making is that the war has indirectly affected BL, which you agree with. It is true that many ruined buildings in BL are not as direct result of war damage but more to economic problems left in the wake of the war. There are villages just outside BL which are ruined, and the mine fields I mentioned are NOT in BL itself. Sorry for my over enthusiastic comments, but the aid organisation I work with takes tons of aid to BL which is distributed in and around BL (and RS) to many vulnerable groups,disabled,orphanages,schools,various NGO projects etc and is hugely appreciated. So of course we work in the poorest areas with the most disadvantaged people.
I notice that BL seems to have no homeless people or beggars which really puts the UK and other wealthy countries to shame! We could learn much about looking after our own from Bosnia&#039;s example.
The postcards and popular pictures of BL show a beautiful and vibrant city which is recovering well, but I wanted to make the point that Bosnia in general is still experiencing need.
Banja Luka always gives us a warm welcome and the hospitality of people there is second to none. Even late at night I feel safe walking in BL, again it puts the UK to shame! Next time I visit I hope to see more of the new BL and experience more of its beauty.
My best wishes to you and to all in Banja Luka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mitar.</p>
<p>Sorry for delay in response.<br />
The point I was making is that the war has indirectly affected BL, which you agree with. It is true that many ruined buildings in BL are not as direct result of war damage but more to economic problems left in the wake of the war. There are villages just outside BL which are ruined, and the mine fields I mentioned are NOT in BL itself. Sorry for my over enthusiastic comments, but the aid organisation I work with takes tons of aid to BL which is distributed in and around BL (and RS) to many vulnerable groups,disabled,orphanages,schools,various NGO projects etc and is hugely appreciated. So of course we work in the poorest areas with the most disadvantaged people.<br />
I notice that BL seems to have no homeless people or beggars which really puts the UK and other wealthy countries to shame! We could learn much about looking after our own from Bosnia&#8217;s example.<br />
The postcards and popular pictures of BL show a beautiful and vibrant city which is recovering well, but I wanted to make the point that Bosnia in general is still experiencing need.<br />
Banja Luka always gives us a warm welcome and the hospitality of people there is second to none. Even late at night I feel safe walking in BL, again it puts the UK to shame! Next time I visit I hope to see more of the new BL and experience more of its beauty.<br />
My best wishes to you and to all in Banja Luka.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitar</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-3712</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Melanie,
I lived in Banja Luka during the war and Banja Luka was not directly affected by the war. Indirectly yes, it is. The border between Serbs and Croats was on the river Sava on the north. On the south there was a border between Serbs and Muslims on the mountain Vlasic.
For example, Sarajevo is pretty much affected by the war, practically completely destroyed.
Please, if you want to prove your words, tell me precisely which building is destroyed, which fabric is destroyed or where are mines and so on. You have wrong information. If you want to walk around Banja Luka, it is completely clear, there are no mines! 100%! I can show you the right side of the Banja Luka, Banja Luka is the city of young peoples, with great possibilities. Of course, as other European cities, you have some poor people. However, there is no hungry people or homeless, like it is a case in the USA or West Europe. I wish you all the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Melanie,<br />
I lived in Banja Luka during the war and Banja Luka was not directly affected by the war. Indirectly yes, it is. The border between Serbs and Croats was on the river Sava on the north. On the south there was a border between Serbs and Muslims on the mountain Vlasic.<br />
For example, Sarajevo is pretty much affected by the war, practically completely destroyed.<br />
Please, if you want to prove your words, tell me precisely which building is destroyed, which fabric is destroyed or where are mines and so on. You have wrong information. If you want to walk around Banja Luka, it is completely clear, there are no mines! 100%! I can show you the right side of the Banja Luka, Banja Luka is the city of young peoples, with great possibilities. Of course, as other European cities, you have some poor people. However, there is no hungry people or homeless, like it is a case in the USA or West Europe. I wish you all the best!</p>
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		<title>By: melanie emmerson</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-3660</link>
		<dc:creator>melanie emmerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently returned from an aid mission to Banja Luka and I violently disagree with your statement that Banja Luka was not affected by the war. We take aid to schools with teachers but no books, chalks, computers,and orphanages with only basics (we provided a cooker and washing machine for one of them) and to disabled organisations who distribute the wheelchairs and walking aids we provide as these basics are not provided by the state. (Even if people have lost limbs to land mines!)Just 5 minutes after dumping a load of stained quilts which we deemed not fit to be used, they were being taken out of the skip by a lady to wash and distribute to her family and friends. You tell me there is nothing wrong with that picture? You should come on our aid convoy and see the real need which is hiding behind the facade of a &quot;new European&quot; city!! (By the way, it is estimated that it will take another 70 years to clear all the landmines which you didnot see!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently returned from an aid mission to Banja Luka and I violently disagree with your statement that Banja Luka was not affected by the war. We take aid to schools with teachers but no books, chalks, computers,and orphanages with only basics (we provided a cooker and washing machine for one of them) and to disabled organisations who distribute the wheelchairs and walking aids we provide as these basics are not provided by the state. (Even if people have lost limbs to land mines!)Just 5 minutes after dumping a load of stained quilts which we deemed not fit to be used, they were being taken out of the skip by a lady to wash and distribute to her family and friends. You tell me there is nothing wrong with that picture? You should come on our aid convoy and see the real need which is hiding behind the facade of a &#8220;new European&#8221; city!! (By the way, it is estimated that it will take another 70 years to clear all the landmines which you didnot see!)</p>
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		<title>By: Ljubisha</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-2461</link>
		<dc:creator>Ljubisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice. I&#039;m happy &#039;cause you liked it ;). It&#039;s always nice to hear that someone like your city.

I agree that many who have lived here don&#039;t live now. But still, Banjaluka is one of rare which can be proud that there were almost none war crimes as in other parts of B&amp;H. 
 
I just come back from one trip. I spent three days in Mostar, in Herzegovina. Huh that is city which is changed completely and there is many blood in the ground. So...Banja Luka can be proud:). It&#039;s good to be born here, have a youth and still live here ;)

Best,
Ljube</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice. I&#8217;m happy &#8217;cause you liked it <img src='http://www.matthewellis.cc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . It&#8217;s always nice to hear that someone like your city.</p>
<p>I agree that many who have lived here don&#8217;t live now. But still, Banjaluka is one of rare which can be proud that there were almost none war crimes as in other parts of B&amp;H. </p>
<p>I just come back from one trip. I spent three days in Mostar, in Herzegovina. Huh that is city which is changed completely and there is many blood in the ground. So&#8230;Banja Luka can be proud:). It&#8217;s good to be born here, have a youth and still live here <img src='http://www.matthewellis.cc/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Ljube</p>
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		<title>By: tamara</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-1921</link>
		<dc:creator>tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m sooooooo happy i liked banjaluka! come vack again.... kisses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m sooooooo happy i liked banjaluka! come vack again&#8230;. kisses</p>
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		<title>By: Prenj</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewellis.cc/archives/780/comment-page-1#comment-1372</link>
		<dc:creator>Prenj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, you are 100% right, Serbs were not expelling Serbs from Banjaluka.
Therefore, I have to make one correction to my statement made above:
... 80% of the prewar &lt;b&gt;non-Serb&lt;/b&gt; population were ethnically cleansed ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, you are 100% right, Serbs were not expelling Serbs from Banjaluka.<br />
Therefore, I have to make one correction to my statement made above:<br />
&#8230; 80% of the prewar <b>non-Serb</b> population were ethnically cleansed &#8230;</p>
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